Holistically Reversing Chronic Health Problems in Kids
We all want what’s best for our kids.
We want them to live healthy, happy, fulfilled lives. The sad fact is that 43% of kids in the United States are diagnosed with some sort of chronic childhood illness. Obviously there’s something at work underneath the surface of our children’s health. Whether it’s lifestyle, toxins, diet and nutrition, all of these factors work against our children leading a healthy life.
Meet Dr. Gluzman:
On this week’s episode we talk with Dr. Nelli Gluzman, otherwise known as Dr. Mom. Dr. Gluzman is the founder of Blossom Pediatrics in New York and is on a mission to find the root cause of chronic health problems in kids. Her approach to healing is identifying the root cause of chronic health issues to make sure that issues don’t come back. We talk with Dr. Gluzman about how her approach to healing differs from other doctors, what we can do as parents to help mitigate chronic health issues in our own kids, and about what dietary choices we can make for our kids to help them stay healthy.
Some Topics We Discuss:
How did Dr. Gluzman decide to get away from the typical band aid approach to health? (2:40)
What chronic illnesses are we seeing most common in children right now? (6:25)
What are things to look out for if you think your child may have a chronic illness? (9:18)
Why are there so many chronic childhood illnesses? (10:55)
Some Key Takeaways from this Episode:
Both conventional and holistic approaches to medicine are needed. (6:38)
43% of children in the US are diagnosed with a chronic disease. (8:55)
We believe in holistic medicine that you can make the changes that will absolutely change the outcome of how genetics are expressed. (13:00)
Healing starts in removing toxins and in restoring gut function. (15:30)
Fermented foods are one of the easiest ways to restore your microbiome. (24:10)
Products + Resources:
Get Social with Dr. Gluzman:
Website: blossompediatrics.com
Facebook @DrNelliGluzman
Instagram @blossompediatrics
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Brian Strickland: Hi everyone and welcome back to The Holistic Navigator Podcast where we believe in the body's ability to heal itself if it's given the proper nutrition and care it deserves. My name is Brian Strickland. I'm the producer of the show and here with me in the studio is not Ed Jones, but our guest host Cady Kuhlman. We're excited to have Cady on the show today sitting in for Ed as we speak with a really special guest [00:01:00] Dr. Nellie Gluzman otherwise known as Dr. Mom. Dr. Gluzman is a pediatrician practicing in New York and she utilizes an integrative, functional and holistic approach to medicine in her practice. This approach is one that focuses on the root cause of chronic illness in children allowing for the complete reversal of symptoms and the elimination of long-term conditions. Man we’re excited about this episode and if you've got kids this is definitely one that you don't want to miss. So let's go ahead and dive right into this episode. Here's your host for today Cady Kuhlman.
Cady Kuhlman: Thank you Brian and welcome listeners to the Holistic Navigator. You're probably not recognizing a female voice on here. I am Cady Kuhlman. I am Ed Jones's daughter. So I'm honored to be on the Holistic Navigator today. For those who are not familiar with me. I have my masters in holistic nutrition. I have grown up in this industry and I am so thankful that this has been my way [00:02:00] of life and living from a holistic functional medicine standpoint from the moment I came onto this Earth. And so I'm even more honored today to have Dr. Gluzman here with me. She is a pediatric doctor from New York City. She's also referred to as Dr. Mom and she is the founder of Blossom Pediatrics. So welcome Dr. Gluzman. We are honored to have you on the Holistic Navigator.
Dr. Gluzman: Thank you so much Cady. I'm so excited to be here speaking to you today. I'm a huge fan of this podcast and your work.
Cady Kuhlman: Thank you. That means the world to us. So I just want to give a background on you because it's really really amazing what you've done with your life in Pediatrics so far. So after working with some of the sickest children in the hospitals in New York City, Dr. Gluzman found herself driven by the need from parents to identify the root cause of their children's illness instead of relying on [00:03:00] the typical Band-Aid solutions. So talk to me a little bit about that and the foundation and philosophy of your practice? Dr. Gluzman: Thank you. Yes, I would love to. So I was already a pediatrician when my own child started to have problems with her health. I was a pediatrician that practiced in a hospital setting. I was really good at making sure that kids who are hospitalized get the conventional treatments that they need, life-saving treatments and that they go home healthy to their parents. And I was doing this for a couple of years when my own daughter became really sick. That one year she was I believe it was like seven courses of antibiotics in one year and that is one too many and I remember her asking me one year, “Mommy. Why do I keep missing school?” And I really had to think for a minute and [00:04:01] I really didn't know why every little thing would turn into a serious bacterial infection. Why was she constantly plagued by all these chronic illnesses that wouldn't go away? Why she kept getting rashes and just not thriving as well as she could have been. And I was really scared. I was confused. I was angry. I was shocked that how does a conventional pediatrician working in the hospital not know how to keep her own daughter healthy? And I realized very quickly that this is just half the story that we really need to be doing something besides treating the symptoms and putting out the fire to restore health and to reduce chronic illnesses in children. And so that's where my journey into holistic medicine unraveled and I'm so glad it did because she's doing really well and I was able to help so many other families and children [00:05:01] who also had kids who are constantly chronically sick.
Cady Kuhlman: And I know as a mama, I have a 15 month old and you as a mom as well. And any mamas that are listening to this or Daddys anyone that has a child always wants the best for that child. They want the best for their education, their life, their world, everything. You really want your child to just thrive in this world and you know as a parent there's really nothing you could do to protect and nurture that child and so most you know pediatricians and especially most in our area and that I'm aware of they're very highly trained and I'm not speaking down to them at all because I really honor all of the time and dedication and the life-saving things they have done for children. But they typically aren't taking the approach of identifying the root cause so this is very very unique to take this standpoint. I think that functional medicine is growing for adults. I think that we see a lot more [00:06:01] you know naturopathic doctors or functional medicine trained doctors coming into the world to really help the adults with the chronic illnesses, but it's not really prevalent in the children's world. And so how wonderful that we could start at a time where their little bodies and their brains are still growing and developing and and come in and really help that root cause. So what in your practice like tell me a little bit about what illnesses, you're finding very common and a little bit of the how common are these chronic illnesses?
Dr. Gluzman: Yes. Well, you know, you mentioned that it's not really common to treat the root cause of these chronic illnesses and that's okay because I mean it's two different kinds of medicines, how I look at it. There's two there's two different approaches to the same problem. Conventional medicine is when you have a problem like let's say [00:07:01] asthma eczema or allergies and you want to get rid of the symptoms and that's what conventional medicine is really good for. It’s life-saving treatment, life-saving Pharmaceuticals. These are medications that help you breathe. If you're a parent who has a kid who had rashes all the time. You're going to get a conventional pediatrician or a conventional allergist, dermatologists are going to prescribe a really excellent steroid cream that will always work. It’s going to work really well. It's going to stop the inflammation on the skin. If you have a parent and you have a child with an allergy, you're going to get a prescription for a medication that's going to alleviate the allergy symptoms. If you have a child who has asthma you're going to get a prescription for something like an inhaler that's going to open up the airway and it's going and it's life-saving potentially and also steroids that calm the inflammation. All these treatments are life-saving treatment and they work really well [00:08:01] to treat the symptom. That's good. We need that. There's no one no one's arguing against that. But what are we doing as parents and also as providers to make sure that the problem doesn't come back? And that's the whole entire world of holistic medicine and there's so many different modalities included in that but I think that the actual bread and butter of what holistic medicine is is treated and reversing the root cause of a problem. Now that could mean very often for children, it means using food or things that grow from the earth as medicine and it doesn't necessarily work right away. But the good news is that it works really really well, especially in children. And so I got two kinds of things that I'm seeing are the result of there being such a massive epidemic of chronic childhood illnesses right now. Did you know Cady that 43% [00:09:01] of kids in the US are diagnosed with a chronic childhood illness? And you yeah, that's that's better that is remarkably dangerous, scary number. And if you parents out there listening, if you're wondering, does my kid have a chronic illness, is something that I need to really look into? Ask yourself this is the criteria that I used to say that there is a chronic illness. Usually it's something that lasts for a while, usually three months or more. So if there are symptoms of rashes or wheezing or allergies that last from one to three months, that's a chronic problem. Does it go away on its own? If it goes away on its ow if it's just a simple cold that's not a chronic illness and that's okay. It doesn't fall into this category, but if it doesn't resolve spontaneously, it might be a chronic childhood illness and the third criteria that I think really touches a lot of families and a heart. It's when I mentioned [00:10:01] this problem interfering with your child's life? What does what that means is does school attendance start to suffer. Does your child have to go to the doctor all the time, or Specialists or the emergency room or even hospitalized? Does your kid has to sit separately in the cafeteria because they're allergic to everything. Do you have to carry an EpiPen everywhere you go because you're afraid that they might Anaphylactic, life-threatening allergy? All those things interfere with life on a pretty heavy level both were for children and for parents and families. And so if you have those three criteria meant I would say that your child falls into this chronic childhood illness category. However, the good news is that these things are completely reversible.
Cady Kuhlman: That's wonderful. That's beautiful. Why do you think there's so many chronic childhood illnesses? What's your philosophy [00:11:01] on that?
Dr. Gluzman: This is such a great question. There's no one right answer. Everybody is different. There are a lot of myths circulating about why this is happening. I'd like to dispel them for you and also bring a few ideas to fruition. So a lot of conventional providers believe that a child might have a chronic medical issue like I mentioned eczema, asthma, and allergies so much because 7 to 10% of kids in the US have this problem. This is what I'm seeing really the most of and also like gut chronic gut health issues,constipation, Diarrhea, bloating, a lot of those things too. But let's just talk about let's say asthma, eczema, allergies and and I'm those sorts of things that topic elif has a lot of practitioners believe and tell parents that the problem the reason why your tells us having this problem [00:12:01] is because of genetics. And that is not only not fully true, but it's also completely disempowering and scary to look at it that way. Yes genetics do play a role in all the different medical issues that exist but we've known for 20-plus years with so many thousands upon thousands of evidence-based studies that prove that the study of epigenetics, which is how the environment influences genetics, is so much more powerful than genetics alone. And if you're a parent who understands that the study of epigenetics meaning you can influence the environment, you can make changes in your child's internal environment and external environment that will influence how the genetics play out, then you are an empowered parent that can make better choices for the child's health. So that is that is one difference between conventional medicine and holistic [00:13:01] medicine We believe in holistic medicine that you can make the changes that will absolutely change the outcome of how genetics are expressed.
Cady Kuhlman: 100%. That’s such an empowering belief system because that doesn't leave us at the mercy of oh, well, I can't help that. It's just the way my life is. Instead, it's an empowering viewpoint to know that we can change our life and our outcome and our health and I think once someone adopts that philosophy then they have their entire world and life can change.
Dr. Gluzman: Yes, absolutely and well said. And there's another myth that I'd like to dispel. It kind of drives me crazy because the numbers don't add up. So the myth is that your child will simply outgrow the chronic childhood illnesses, but without making the changes that need to be made the empowered changes that need to be made to their internal and external environment. They will unlikely [00:14:01] I'll grow it because the same problem that landed them to have this problem in the first place will continue and to receive more and more of the data coming out where about 8 percent of kids in the US have eczema and about seven percent of adults in the US have eczema. So who is outgrowing it? 1%. So if you want to be a parent who makes sure that your child not only outgrows it but outgrows these chronic problems quickly, you need to make some changes. And these changes are not not a big deal. They're really available to everybody. These are usually tailored to restoring gut health and you ask me why so many of these problems are happening. Now a lot of it has to do with gut health and a lot of that has to do toxicity. And both of those lead to lots of inflammation in the body, but knowing exactly how to heal the gut and restore the microbiome, which is the good bacteria in the gut will make a huge [00:15:01] drastic change in in how these chronic childhood illnesses will go away and go away quickly. They really solve with a it could be about 30 days. It could sometimes longer. Sometimes it could take years. You know, as a parent that you're doing everything in your power to start healing your child to give them the building blocks they need to heal.
Cady Kuhlman: And I know you just mentioned, you know toxicity as one of the causes of potential chronic illnesses and I'm always blown away by a study that was performed by the Environmental Working Group. And it was on the body burden of basically the pollution in newborns. So before newborns even come into this, you know the earth side of life and they're in the the womb of the mom, the study found that there was a total of 287 chemicals found from the umbilical cord going to these children in the womb. So we kind of already know that you know our life, you know, before the babies even [00:16:01] come into this world begin on average with a little bit of toxicity already. So they come into this world and if the diet continues with more toxicity and continues, you know antibiotics and continued medications. There's just a greater chance that there is going to be some type of chronic illness that arises because the body can only rid itself of so much toxicity, especially if it's not given back in the right ways with the diet and the nutrients.
Dr. Gluzman: I love how you mentioned the Environmental Working Group. This is actually a database that I used when I taught families how to prevent a lot of toxic overload that might be impacting their kids. I refer them to the Environmental Working Group because they can make better and more empowered choices. There are a lot of the bad news is that we're swimming in toxic soup. Good news is that we could really make empowered better choices. The body is able to rid [00:17:01] itself of a lot of toxins it has you know, sometimes that do just that. But sometimes when a few picture of anybody's body is like a bucket and you keep putting more toxins into the bucket and eventually it will spill over for not emptying the drain on the bottom. And so making choices that not only decrease the amount of toxins going in but helping the drain empty by supporting the body's ability to detox naturally we can start to decrease the amount of symptoms and problems that arise when there's just too much toxicity that the body can get rid of. And so I love the Environmental Working Group as an amazing database. And also there are a lot of I know that you're a big fan of using herbs. There so many herbs that are safe for children that are magical and helping the body really start to detox naturally helping support the liver, [00:18:01] for example. So getting familiar and comfortable with a lot of the beautiful foods and herbs and botanicals and the different kind real fermented foods for example will help you make more empowered choices in everyday life that will ultimately decrease the amount of symptoms and ultimately reverse chronic childhood illness.
Cady Kuhlman: I love that. And I'm so happy you tell moms to go look at the Environmental Working Group. That's one of my kind of take homes for a mom that feels overwhelmed or is unsure of where to start. I let them know just go home and start looking up the you know, the what you're washing your clothes in for the baby. What are you washing that baby’s or child skin with you know, what lotions are going on and I get them to go into the ewg.org and type in whatever product maybe topically touching that child's skin. [00:19:02] If the child deals with lots of eczema and rashes and allergies and you know along with working in the gut health realm which you're going to discuss more. But if we can remove some of those toxins from that skin, it's such a big help in decreasing that body burden.
Dr. Gluzman: Yes that is so important. That's actually when I teach families in my 30-day program where I start to teach families how to literally reverse their kids chronic illnesses. It's a 30 day course online. And so we start with decreased the toxicity in both in your household, but also in your kid's body. So many changes happen so quickly when you start to do that that could be also the kinds of foods that we eat. We all know that we should be eating healthy, but having a good solid foundation about what are we really eating when we're eating processed foods? What about the colorings in those candies? What are we doing when we [00:20:02] start to introduce preservatives into a lot of different food. So toxicity but even I think even more important and especially right now is restoring gut health. That is really fundamental for a lot of these chronic childhood problems. Restoring gut health. There are many different names for this a lot of people call this like leaky gut others call it dysbiosis. It's all is on the same spectrum of problems. The problem is the gut health is jeopardized. The endothelial lining which is the cells that literally lining the lines the gut they might not be as well supported and the lining of the gut could start to break down. And what that means is not only does it prevent toxins from coming out but kids are not absorbing nutrients properly. They aren’t able to detox and get rid of the things that they don't need in their body and they not able to absorb the nutrients they need to grow and heal and [00:21:02] thrive. At the same time a lot of different antigens or large proteins are getting into the bloodstream that shouldn't be there and that can cause a whole a whole plethora of allergy symptoms. If you heal the gut lining and then you repopulate it with a good healthy diverse microbiome, which are the beneficial bacteria, the beneficial yeast, the beneficial viruses. You have all the different microbiome cells that literally keep everything moving working, digesting, and supported and that's also so fundamental to reversing chronic childhood illness.
Cady Kuhlman So tell our listeners who may be unfamiliar with leaky gut. Is that something that could occur after the use of antibiotics? Is that something that you know, once a mom has given a round of antibiotics [00:22:02] the repopulation of those good bacteria is so important. Speak a little on that.
Dr. Gluzman: So we've seen an emergent of these chronic problems as really when antibiotics were introduced on a grand scale in about the 1950s. And babies actually get their microbiome in their in their guts populated from mom when it’s born when they pass through the vaginal canal. And so let's say you are you have a child and you yourself as a mom have been on maybe your listeners how many courses of antibiotics have you been on when you were a child? Some people up to 20 even 30 even a few courses as enough to kill a lot of the beneficial bacteria in the gut. And let's say you have a baby and you had a C-section. That baby doesn't pass through the vaginal canal and get populated with the type of [00:23:02] population that they should be populated with because they never passed through the vaginal canal so they might end up getting seated in regards with other types of bacteria. And let's say you are a mom and you did have a vaginal delivery for your baby, but you needed to get antibiotics because you would GBS positive in order to prevent possible infection. And so the baby is also not being seated with the right microbiome. And so if you take that and then plus add on a few ear infections to the mix, maybe strep throat to the mix. Then you have a five-year-old who has been exposed to not only their own courses of antibiotics that knock out a lot of the beneficial populations in the gut, but mom has not been able to give you the proper microbiome. So you really need to focus on restoring that microbiome in order to make a diverse and beneficial and healthy. And this is actually really really easy to do. Our [00:24:03] ancestors knew. This is very traditional medicine. There's nothing new about this. The best way to do this is to start eating your live probiotics in the form of fermented food. I don't know where this got lost in translation through in modern times, but most traditional cultures had some kind of fermented with your life probiotic food in their culture that they were eating. Yes, probiotics are very helpful but only if you get them from the resource, and I know that when you guys send out your probiotics it's refrigerated. But a lot of times when you're not buying from a reputable source for probiotics, you end up having dead bacteria, you basically wasting your money. And so one way to ensure this is to know where you're getting your probiotics from but another way is to actually eat the ferment. Fermented foods [00:25:03] are basic are the sauerkrauts, the kimchi b-class the yogurts the key figures all those live foods are the actual live bacteria that we need in our guts to be healthy.
Cady Kuhlman: I believe that I love those fermented foods. Do you see in your practice though that you have trouble with children adding those in if they're not used to that taste in their diet?
Dr. Gluzman: A lot of people are like, oh my gosh why he does not going to eat sauerkraut. No way. But I'm here to tell you that most kids who are practicing Boston Pediatrics and I use sauerkraut as medicine. All the time most kids ends up loving it and they end up craving it really because nobody knows but it needs it. So yes, maybe a toddler or like the younger child might be resistant to the taste at first, but you could actually use a lot of these ferments not just to eat by [00:26:03] themselves but to add it on to food. So if you're making a stew, you can add some sauerkraut to it or you could use the two juice of it instead of salt because it is kind of salty and so introducing these kinds of foods into meals if you're even the pickiest eaters is very very doable.
Cady Kuhlman: I love that. I will say my 15 month old, he's never had sugar except in the form of some fruits, of course that we do give him but he's never had added sugars to any food item yet and he craves sauerkraut. He loves it. So I have started him on little bits of sauerkraut from the age of one and on and wanted to see what his taste response was going to be to it. And the more that he's grown every month the more he's wanted it. So you're very correct. And in the fact that the body does know what it needs.
Dr. Gluzman: Yes, and sauerkraut is great because it's so easy to make. It's also fun to make and you only need two ingredients which is cabbage and a good high quality [00:27:03] salt. That's all you need to make the most potent probiotics you could possibly find in your kitchen. Your kids can help me get a lot of kids love to help and then they'll be more receptive to trying new foods. But there are also some really great ferments that are a bit more kid-friendly that a lot of people haven't heard of like have you heard of beet kavas, which is a fermented beets?
Cady Kuhlman: Yes. We do sell it at our store. Absolutely. I personally love it. I've had some customers before not be as receptive, but I think it's a wonderful health tonic.
Dr. Gluzman: Yes at a lot of kids like it because it's bright pink and it doesn't have that. It's kind of on a sweeter side. Beets are very much full of sugar. And so it's a little bit easier for kids to like get used to when it comes to taste. But even a teaspoon of these fermented juices or food have more live probiotics and a lot of probiotics you can get in store. [00:28:04] So that's why I'm such a huge fan of this and I actually use this as a prescription as a medicine to start reversing a lot of kids' eczema, asthma, and allergies.
Cady Kuhlman: Oh that's amazing. One of my favorite doctors. Dr. Weston Price, it sounds like you kind of follow a little bit of his ancient wisdom of getting those fermented foods to colonize the gut again. And do use bone broth in your practice?
Dr. Gluzman: Oh absolutely bone broth and stocks. So they're both different. They're used in different ways. I am also a GAPS practitioner and for your listeners who may have heard of this, it's a protocol that helps reverse a lot of chronic childhood illnesses. But it's hard to do because you have to drink bone broth and stock every single day ever meal. I do use that for a lot of kids. Bone broth [00:29:04] and stocks whether they be from fish or from different poultry and they literally make up what the gut lining is made of so you're actually giving the gut what do you need to line the gut back so that it can heal and seal it. So I do use that a lot. But if it needs to be done properly you have to make sure that you're either making it yourself or you're getting it from a really good source. Because a lot of different bone broths, they're like if you get it in a jar or can you have to know what you're getting. It is this so boiled down that you are killing all the beneficial live collagens and proteins and paths are using naturing them when you're cooking it or is it the real deal food as medicine?
Cady Kuhlman: Thank you for that. Thank you. That's great for listeners. So I do want you to touch a little bit more on your 30-day rescue program or you're single visit six month intensive just [00:30:04] tell me like for a listener or a mom who's out there right now and they are like I need her I need her to really have an intervention for my child. Speak a little to those programs so she would know kind of the next step.
Dr. Gluzman: I would love to so there are a few different ways to work with me. If you’re a parent who has a kid with eczema, asthma, allergies, constipation, autism symptoms, that's kind of what I specialize in. It's not limited to that but I have been bringing kids through this journey for a while now and literally reversing a lot of their allergies to a point where they don't have to carry an EpiPen anymore. Whether they are not needing you and your steroid creams or needing to be hospitalized for asthma, pooping well growing and thriving. And so if you are in New York, you can find my practice which is Blossom Pediatrics. It's in New York City and you're out of New York, I bring families through this same protocol [00:31:04] through a live virtual class. It's a 30-day program and it teaches you as a parent all the steps that you need to take to start reversing your child's chronic illness. And actually your whole family is. I noticed that a lot of people who start this for their own child end up doing it for themselves. And because these are children everything that is appropriate for children is also appropriate for adults and so you can also find this information on my website, which is BlossomPediatrics.com
Cady Kuhlman: Oh, that's wonderful. What a wonderful resource. So I know you know your website when I was looking through it and just being blown away by what you do, you mentioned that this program is for you or your child. If you kind of find yourself thinking this is genetic. This is my child's destiny. It's never going to go away or maybe with time he'll outgrow it or you kind of given up to the fact. Oh, I guess my child will have to rely on multiple medications for life. Or you see as you've mentioned multiple [00:32:04] times on this interview that you you know, you're sad that your child's having to have a different quality of life because of having to carry the EpiPen or having to avoid certain social settings because of the food allergies. So if you are a parent and you're hearing this then we both right now we're telling you that there are options and this is so so empowering. We Dr. Gluzman and I foundationally believe that you know food is medicine and taking away the wrong things, taking away the toxicity and giving the right foods, our body innately was meant to heal. It's supposed to heal. It's supposed to be healthy. It's supposed to be vital and even if your child is in a place of, you know, struggling with some symptoms. That's just the body speaking out to say. Hey, I need some attention in this area. Hey, I need to be a little bit nourished. I need to be a little bit listen to and [00:33:04] once it is and once it's treated in a way that you know brings back and restores what was meant to be there, then the quality of life will improve. I know that. Dr. Gluzman knows that. She's seen it in her practice and you know, I'm looking through all the places you've been recognized for your practice and BuzzFeed and Wellness Mama, in USA Today and Eat This Not That, in Enriched Parenting. I mean so many places are catching on to what you're doing because you are really diving into something that the world and children need. So I am so thankful that we have had this moment, you know to speak and interview you. And if there's anything else you want to say to listeners, I'd love to give you the last few moments here.
Dr. Gluzman: Oh, sure. Thank you. Well, I just want to say that I was also a parent that felt overwhelmed by the amount of choices that are available and the amount of different recommendations [00:34:04] out on the internet. And so whether you work with me or with someone else this is a big big field and there are so many amazing practitioners that recognize this same approach even pediatricians that are converting to this kind of holistic medicine. So I really encourage you and empower you to start looking beyond conventional medicine to heal your child. Because I know that it is doable, people do it, and your child could also be healed from the inside out. Kids heal so quickly and that is very very encouraging and so incredible to watch and see and be a part of so, thank you so much Cady for having me on. It was such a delight to speak with you and I just love how you phrase all the different beautiful ways to look at this approach. Thank you.
Cady Kuhlman: Thanks so much.It's been a pleasure to speak with you. I hope to get the opportunity to actually meet in person one day, but this has been just a wonderful opportunity. [00:35:04] So to all the mamas out there, all the daddies, all the people raising your wonderful beautiful little children, we thank you for listening, and we hope you feel empowered after our time spent here. So don't forget about. Dr. Gluzman's website Blossom Pediatrics, and we will talk to you next time. Thank you again.
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