The Fascinating World of Hydrogen Medicine
On this week’s episode we’re talking with Dr. Mark Sircus. We discuss the potential power of hydrogen for healing. Dr. Sircus has used hydrogen medicine in his practice and personally. He walks us through why hydrogen is such an interesting atom, how it can be used for healing, and other simple healing substances like bicarbonate and iodine.
Meet Dr. Sircus:
Dr. Mark Sircus, Ac., OMD, DM (P) (acupuncturist, doctor of oriental and pastoral medicine) is a prolific writer and author of some astounding medical and health-related books. Dr. Sircus’s methods are based on medical science and long years of clinical experience, not only his own but experiences of doctors from around the world who have been practicing brilliant medicine.
His books are heavily referenced, but the layperson finds little difficulty in understanding his presentation of medical topics. For many years Dr. Sircus has been researching into the human condition and into the causes of disease; he has distilled many of the divergent medical systems into a new form of medicine that he has coined Natural Allopathic Medicine.
Some Topics We Discussed:
Why is hydrogen such an interesting topic as it relates to our health? (3:29)
What are some of the practical applications of hydrogen medicine? (11:23)
Who can benefit from hydrogen medicine? (20:22)
Are there any risks to hydrogen medicine? (23:00)
How can you integrate sodium bicarbonate into your health regimine? (26:04)
Key Takeaways From This Episode:
Hydrogen provides energy. It stimulates the mitochondria. (5:41)
Hydrogen is a powerful anti aging agent. (20:48)
Most people are breathing way too fast. (27:44)
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Brian Strickland 00:05 Hey everyone, welcome back to the Holistic Navigator Podcast where we believe in the body's capacity for self healing, if it's given the proper nutrients and care it deserves. My name is Brian Strickland. I'm the producer of the show. And here with me in the studio, as always, is your host, Ed Jones. On today's episode, we're speaking with Dr. Mark Sircus. He's an acupuncturist, a doctor of Oriental and pastoral medicine, and author of many health related books. And while Dr. Sircus has many areas of expertise, we wanted to talk to him specifically about hydrogen medicine today. Hydrogen is a really unique atom. It's the smallest and most abundant one in the universe. And it makes up a big part of who we are as human beings. Dr. Sircus believes that hydrogen medicine is a revolution sweeping across the world of medicine. So we wanted to get his take on what exactly it is how it can help people, what hydrogen can do in the body, and more. Well, that's it for me, everyone. We have a lot of ground to cover today, as always. So let me go ahead and pass it over to our host, Mr. Ed Jones.
Ed Jones 01:38 Thank you so much, Brian, as always. And today, I know I always talk about the fact that I have, you know, interesting, exciting guests. But this particular person, I've actually looked forward to this gentleman coming on for quite some time, one of which is I've been following this person and he has similar, but I feel passions for learning passions for nutrition, teaching, empowering other people as I do. We have a broken system, there's no doubt I think the pandemic indicated that with the fact that people saw the brokenness of philosophies and how the medical system really is a weak system, we have to really have our toolkit, half of it together in our own world to be ready to, to take care of ourselves and our loved ones. Well, today, we're going to have Dr. Sircus, to the Holistic Navigator. And this again, this gentleman, he is a acupuncturist, Doctor of Oriental and pastoral medicine, a prolific writer, and has covered many subjects on the whole topic of self healing, and nutrition. Now, one thing I saw on his website I really, really appreciate it was they wrote that his approach is humanitarian, because it pays attention to the majority who cannot afford this expensive medical treatments and pharmaceutical drugs. And so he has a great website, which you'll talk about, and I have many articles on there. But today we're going to speak about a new, but I feel like almost miraculous option for health that no one has really addressed in the past. And it is on hydrogen, hydrogen medicine. And welcome to the illicit navigator, Dr. Sircus.
Dr. Sircus 03:26 Thanks for having me.
Ed Jones 03:29 I want to delve into this because, you know, I deal with people all day long, six days a week, sometimes we have hundreds of people come through our wellness clinic, we have 17 practitioners, we have a nutrition store, we have a lot of stuff going on. And very, very, very few have any knowledge, any working knowledge of the potential of this molecule, which is the smallest molecule in the universe called hydrogen. And you are extremely skilled in explaining this. So you want to start this conversation with just like, how did you get into this as far as hydrogen and what are you learning? And how can it apply to each of us in our daily life?
Dr. Sircus 04:11 Well, hydrogen is the backbone of the universe from the invisible, non physical universe jumping into the physical, comes hydrogen. And it's everywhere on the sun's all the sun's eat it for breakfast, lunch and dinner. It's floods into Stella's space into galactic space. And it's the basis of life along with oxygen along with carbon dioxide. And they offer salvation for race not only in terms of energy, because it's a non polluting energy source. The when you have a hydrogen car for example what comes out of the exhaust is pure water. And so if of use it for planes and buses and trains, it's going to be non polluting energy source. And for the body, it also also offers salvation. Because it's, well, it's, first of all, when you treat medically with hydrogen, it's so small, it gets everywhere. I mean, when I mean everywhere, it'll touch down on every cell, including the tip of your nose and your toes and your retina, just gets everywhere. And it has a certain very interesting effect, like cars, trains and buses. It provides energy. It's a like in food, it's it's a fuel. And it will stimulate the mitochondria and stimulate oxidative stress, I mean, the process of oxidation, which creates even in a very healthy person oxidative stress. It's one of the reasons oxygen by itself is not the safest molecule, because it is a stress involved in it. And as such, you cannot give pure oxygen without killing a person, you have to have co2 mixed in with it. And maybe we'll have time to get into that because my book on hydrogen medicine, which just came out in the United States and in hardback and softcover is that subtitle is healing, combining oxygen with hydrogen, and co2 is getting command simultaneously of the three gases. But hydrogen, focus on hydrogen, so it gives energy it stimulates life. But it's like if you're familiar with baseball that everybody is but you have a pitcher and a catcher. Hydrogen is the both it's the pitcher who winds up and gives the energy throws the ball creates stress, oxidative stress, life has its own stress. And then it catches the stress at the catcher and turns the free radicals, the worst of them to water. So it's an anti oxidant, the smallest, like 137 times more than vitamin C. And it takes down the free radicals. So it reduces oxidative stress. And this also reduces inflammation. So it's like an insurance policy. We you know, I deal a lot with cancer patients. And no matter what you're doing whatever treatment approach you're following, especially if you're using radiation, which creates an enormous amount of oxidative stress, and chemotherapy. It's like an insurance policy. It's gives you the edge. It's like a wind that blows you away from death's door. And I say that literally because most of the studies in China and Japan are under those kinds of conditions, ICU emergency room medicine, where they're using this on very difficult life threatening situations, even when a person is on the last day. And that dying, he can blow you away from that door.
Ed Jones 08:47 I love that. I love that. That's such a strong statement. And I I know people are going to be excited to learn all they can about this because the people listening to this podcast, have a great open mind and they're trying to fill their personal toolkit with more knowledge and options. And again, I know I love the way that you said how small this molecule is. And I think people should realize that even if you take something like vitamin C or, or regular food or any nutrient, there's so many places in the body that that molecule probably can't get to one of which is past the brain barrier. Well, hydrogen has a free pass to every single cell in the body. In fact, I just listened a couple days ago to a guy named Tyler LeBaron, who has who's considered also a very well spoken about hydrogen. And even back in 1970 and Texas a&m university, they did a big study with people of melanoma and put them in a hydrogen tank basically, a unit like hyperbaric and tremendous results but as you and I know Dr. Circus, we kind of have a corrupt system. Truth doesn't always surface in fact, it's sometimes centered like we've never seen, like now centered more than any time. And that's where people like you and I, we're not gonna allow that to happen, we're going to put the information out. And so, you know, meet looking at your side and listening these other people. I mean, we're talking about possible applications, in fact, in the literature to 170, different health disorders that have very good references to hydrogen, everything from Parkinson to cardiac dysfunction, even hearing loss under chemo. So, and I just am so excited because this is like a new new kid on the block, really. And it's not difficult to do we I want you to talk about the options of how people can introduce hydrogen into their body, because I actually, Dr. Sircus bought a hydrogen machine from you about a year and a half ago, I think. And it was the it was the Aqua. What's your Yeah, yeah, and I'm sure, and of course, I do the tablets where I put them in water, and I drink it, and also drink some of the pre packaged water. But so I'm sorry to take up that time, explain just my personal view on it. But I think people will sense the passion that I have, that we really need this, this is not like an improved vitamin C, this is life saving, as you just said. So continue on, thank you.
Dr. Sircus 11:23 Well, my life saving, I want to bring it down to a personal level I I promote two different machines, hydrogen machines that they put out Browns gas, which has been around for a long time, which is a combination of 66% hydrogen and 33% Oxygen. And there are two machines that that I recommend one comes from United States, which with a discount me buying it through me get 20% off, it still cost $2,000. Another one from Australia puts out the same gas is three times more expensive. But it's built like a tank, stainless steel, you know, lots of really nice things, including quietness. And I got, they sent me a machine three and a half months ago. And I started using it all night long. Meaning when I go to sleep, I turn the machine on, and I'd sleep. And for years, I can't remember, I really can't remember when it was when I didn't wake up with pain. I've had a muscular neuromuscular situation, I'm 68 years old since I was 16. And I started doing this therapy. And within a week, I was waking up with no pain, really no pain, wow. Which to me was, I mean, it didn't I didn't get totally enlightened. And you know, as it didn't get convinced, you know, maybe influenced my condition positively to 95 to 97%. But in the morning, I would wake up with no pain. So I could go and do my yoga with no pain, which is for me was a huge thing.
Ed Jones 13:17 That's powerful. I mean, Father Time is going to have its way with all of us, and certainly less for those of us who take good care nutritionally, but it's still going to be wear and tear. And I love that fact, because that is strong. When you say proof proofs, a big word, strong confidence building for anyone who's wondering what hydrogen really helped me. And I want to say I don't, you know, again, people don't have to spend 1000s At this stage, they can do these tablets. In fact, I do you know, tablets, like I said, I put two in water most days and I'll drink it. It does have about eight, I think eight parts per million per tablet. And just because I need to say at one time, you know, this show is sponsored by nutrition w.com. And you can purchase the tablets on there. Again, as far as equipment, I really trust your site Doctor circus, and the fact that I think I know you're ethical and honest. So that's why I trusted buying that machine from your site and tell people right now so they don't have to wait to the end. What is your website?
Dr. Sircus 14:20 My main web website is Drcircus.com. And you'll see my new hydrogen book listed on the main main page and it will take you to my hydrogen sites and I have three different hydrogen sites. And one of them will shows you the equipment that I recommend. The big I did. I did the tablets for about two years before I got into the inhalation therapy. And one of the companies I used to recommend their machine also were one of the pioneers in the tech Avila market. And they're the ones who supplied me with my tablets. But even they, when it comes down to price analysis or cost analysis, the hydrogen halation puts out so much hydrogen, that really, I don't even use the water anymore. Because it'd be inhalation in to scale, it's just in one hour, or even 20 minutes of hydrogen inhalation. It's almost like a bottle of water, the tablet. And also on my site, you'll see an essay about hydrogen gas healing brain cancer, the water will not get into the brain will not influence cross the barrier, like the gas well. So it's and the research most of the real research is on the gas. You know, my made my, I became famous in the world for my work and magnesium. And then sodium bicarbonate, which is the most powerful, cheapest medicine on the planet. And so recommending a machine is a $2,500 machine that people can get it to me for. If they use a code, which they you'll see on my product site, Dr SRC was 20, Get 20% off of 500. But what I'm what really want to say is that even though an investment of 2000 Sounds like a lot to the kind of people I've been dealing with for last 20 years, it's well it's better than life insurance. I mean, well, life insurance for sure. And health insurance. And I've never paid for health insurance. Having your own machine because you know the homie, as you said, the whole medical system is failing us. And that's really coming out in this pandemic, it's becoming very clear, we could do a whole show just on the failures of modern medicine, and the ignorance of why the medicine. But when my work when I do consultations to teach people how to set up an ICU or emergency room, kind of situation in their own home where they treat themselves and don't need, the doctors don't need to go to the hospital to avoid it. And hydrogen is such a such a is a tool is a instrument you can have in your home and use for years. And not only just you or one person, but the whole family are husband and wife. So the costs, the cost benefit is very high. It really is. When you do things right. You can expect much more positive results. And when you're doing things wrong when you're using poisons, which is what modern medicine is all about. It's about pharmaceuticals, radiation, therapy, chemotherapy. Walker, everything that comes out of the pharmaceutical industry is toxic.
Ed Jones 18:15 Absolutely. And you know, the third leading cause of death in this country is pharmaceutical drugs written by the book and taken the way you're supposed to third leading cause. And yet people seem to still discount the seriousness of, of using chronic pharmaceuticals. I mean, I do, I'm not throwing everything out with the bath the baby. But there are times and places we may need to use it very short run. But this chronic use of pharmaceuticals is devastating this country. And then secondly, just because I tend to be outspoken, it's also the quality of care is I don't know if you see this darker esophagus, it is decreasing significantly. With the skill level. Even in the world of traditional medicine, there seem to be more and more clueless, and they're making such poor decisions. Most people who walk into any quick care place, almost any general practitioner, you're going to walk if you walk in not feeling well, you're gonna walk out with one of three prescriptions, you can have a steroid, and antibiotic, or a painkiller or an anti anxiety. I mean, those are and those are the four drugs and you're probably going to get one too for those, no matter what you say, how insane to do that on a seven minute visit, when there's no way they can look at your blood work, they can no way talk about your life, your emotions, your foods, or this or that your sleep. And they're going to give you one of these four drugs and all of them are going to have very serious side effects if used anything more than a short run. So I loved it. And I remember reading that on your site about how to put together your own basic emergency room in your house or treatment room and actually, I think that might have been what sparked me to purchase that machine from you And, but I am using a tablet daily just for some preventative effects, but the machine is the king daddy, there's no doubt. So what kind of health and I know the people who I've talked to in my personal life, I mean, most of them have serious health concerns. And that's why they are considering the the hydrogen. But I mean, even just prevention is going to play a big role, isn't it because it reduces hydroxy radicals, which are one of the most toxic poisons that we accumulate as we age, and is selective. So hydrogen is the only molecule that I know about, that actually can go in and devastate the most corrosive and damaging molecule called a hydroxy. But kind of leave the other ones alone. Nothing else does that. So So in other words, everybody could benefit from hydrogen?
Dr. Sircus 20:48 Well, yes, I mean, and I'm a good example of that. Also, in these three months. If you look at we're not doing a video today, but if you know, people have been commenting, I look 10 years younger, my skin and cut people for the beauty business, this is fantastic. Because it gets to the skin, and beautifies the skin, and I've written several times about it being the ultimate anti aging agent, they don't need to keep spending billions of dollars and coming up with all these incredibly expensive treatments for anti aging. This is it. If you're healthy, if you're healthy. When you know, as I said before, it's a win that blows you away from death's door. Well, you could be 40 years away from death's door, I don't know blow you to 50 years.
Ed Jones 21:40 I love it.
Dr. Sircus 21:43 Just it has a very strong anti aging, because what is aging? Well, aging is increasing acid conditions, which is low oxygen and low voltage conditions, which is pH after all is, is in physics and measurement of voltage, some cell energy and accumulating toxins and oxidative stress, inflammation. These are all markers of aging. And the wind of hydrogen mixed with oxygen and co2 is even in the healthy person is just going to repress those, those aging factors. And you can visually see it,
Ed Jones 22:32 Yeah, that's so interesting, because, you know, a 40 year old wouldn't see probably those same physical effects. But when I hear and see people like your story, I don't have to have massive scientific proof. I have eyeballs. And I have common sense. If you aren't, and you're not if you're doing one or two things only and you improve that significantly. I want part of I want to be part of that party. I want to join in and have that Kool Aid. And who wouldn't? Because one is there is or I'm asking you, is there any risk to exposing yourself to hydrogen? I at most any normal level? Whether it be the tablets or the machine? Is there a risk?
Dr. Sircus 23:12 No, there's no I mean, the only risk is that hydrogen is a fuel. So if you're breathing hydrogen, and you stick a match up your nose, well, that's risky. That that's contra indicated.
Ed Jones 23:30 Well, I do you know, I like to get that does clear that nose hairs out though if you put a lit match in your nose. So um, I guess I'll have to stop doing that from now on. Right? Hey, I did. Let me ask you this. I heard on that other interview with Tyler LeBaron he was talking about it was interesting story about the people of the past who you know went looking for the Fountain of Youth including Ponce de Leon. And they actually he commented and said most of these waters that were the miracle waters when they tested them they were higher in hydrogen than most other waters. So I thought that was an interesting little story.
Dr. Sircus 24:05 Yes, actually the best waters in the world natural waters and yet also you can make it a full of high of magnesium and bicarbonate. And anything that's high in magnesium and bicarbonate is gonna mostly be high in hydrogen because they're alkaline.
Ed Jones 24:24 Got you. And you know I the thing is, I don't want to we got to cover the two other parts that you just mentioned before we and because in my 43 year career of counseling people and doing all the things I've done in my whole life, I keep going back to the one is pH is what we're talking about what bicarbonate is the greatest. I mean people use the word poor man's cancer cure. It is amazing and your writings have really exploded the information on the benefit of that sodium bicarbonate I mean we nutrition W cells in capsules, and you certainly can Get in those cheap powders. And then But secondly, and I've done a podcast personally on the benefits of magnesium, it's not even benefits, it's life saving as you speak about. And the real trade add is, you know, bicarbonate of soda, addressing pH, magnesium and and these hydrogen concepts I mean that is a powerful defensive against aging disease. And you know, it's easy to not think about these things when you're 40. But every few years you get older and the more people you see suffering with chronic diseases that are not getting better. And they're pretty much turning their life over to the medical field with all their trips to the doctors, their pharmaceuticals, all their side effects, they gave up their life even. And that didn't even count being sick. It's just the routine that you get sucked into. We you and I are going to empower the people who have open minds that that doesn't have to happen. So continue on, I don't mean to rattle on like I do, but I love talking to you.
Dr. Sircus 26:04 The one of the things, I want to know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, as I said, the book title subtitle is healing with oxygen, hydrogen and CEO to CEO, you know, one of the big ignorances of modern medicine is they don't know now think about that in the blood. co2 and bicarbonate are twin sisters, they're really two forms of the same thing that turned into each other almost at the speed of light, with the help of an enzyme. Bill Gates, not one of my favorite people on the planet has made in a year has acquainted co2 with evil, when actually is a very necessary healthy gas that plants love that we can't humans can live without. And as we age, because our stomach has to make bicarbonate, our pancreas has to make bicarbonate and very importantly, our kidneys have to make enough bicarbonate to keep the blood state pH stable. As we age those organs do not on unable to keep up with enough production, bicarbonate. So people become bicarbonate deficient, become acidic. And that is one of the bottom lines to aging and disease. What I teach people the most difficult part of my protocols also the cheapest, but it's difficult. It has to do with bicarbonate. But it has to do with breathing. Most people today are breathing too fast. If you want to diagnose yourself, instantly count how many breaths you take in a minute. 70 years ago, the medical norm for breathing was eight breaths a minute. Today, they've changed that to 12 to 15. Cancer patients are going up to 20. I call 20 breaths a minute or 18 Cancer breath. The faster we breathe, the sooner we die. The faster we breathe, the less more co2 we take it out of the blood. Just losing my voice here.
Ed Jones 28:28 Let me let me let me comment on that. Then for just a second. I just love how we're echoing each other. I did one of my podcast on boteco breathing, which I know you're probably familiar with Dr. protec, or Russian position. And I mean, he came up with this practice of teaching people to breathe and had an extreme kureta of asthma, anxiety, even some of the ADHD back in the day. And because you hit it exactly right. Ideally, we should be breathing about eight times a minute. And there's almost very few of us who do that. And I was speaking to a person last week who had this have this anxiety that keeps coming on. I said one of two things I said try to make your exhalation about twice as long as your inhalation and then work at getting to about eight breaths per minute. And it was like overnight success at least when she does it, that it allowed her to calm down go back to sleep. But it also I know Dr. protec co wrote a lot about most animals. If you crush their nose and they have to mouth breathe, they will be spiraling into very poor health or death within three months. Except for cat and dog. They seem to make it but seems like zebras and other animals because you're exactly right about the carbon dioxide and that comes down to this whole thing with sodium bicarbonate breathing. And again if people want to learn about Dr. protec go go into my the illicit navigator under the breathing pod cast, and I speak and I teach you how to kind of put together the program for Dr. boteco. I'm so glad you brought that up Dr. Circus because you know this, that's another piece to this toolkit. Yes, it takes some discipline, yes, it takes a little learning. But once you get the rhythm down, it's just second nature again, and it will make us a healthier person. But again, go head back on the the sodium bicarbonate to
Dr. Sircus 30:23 Buteyko knows about this device comes from Russia called the frog love breathing device. And cost $50 I think on Amazon, you can get it for 37 or something I'm not sure. And it's a it's a thing holding your hand you put some water in it has a tube you breathe in through your nose and you breathe out for the machine, and your air goes through the water and you blow bubbles. I recommend that to all cancer patients. The fact is that if you're breathing too fast, the fat the faster you breathe, not only assuming you die, but the sicker you are, it is statistically impossible to be healthy and breathe too fast at the same time. Because as your co2 levels go down, so does your oxygen. The reason so but fat but sloped disciplining your breathing, which is made easier with this little $50 machine. It's still week by week, month by month, year by year process, but sodium bicarbonate or potassium bicarbonate or magnesium bicarbonate, they give you instant access to more co2 in the blood. That is why it is such a powerful medicine. Because it immediately balances the body may take turns you from acidic, which is low oxygen and Rose energy to high oxygen, high energy, cellular energy and more co2 in the blood. So it's and that's why I wrote my book the way I did it, I don't like to isolate one thing from everything else. You know, it's you know, vitamin D 17 is the answer to everything. You know,
Ed Jones 32:18 it's nonsense I want. And let me ask you a question. Because I know when I advise people on the sodium bicarbonate, I do recommend they do it between meals. Is that something you also agree with?
Dr. Sircus 32:30 Yes, okay, the only the only time to take bicarbonate after a meal is when you have acid reflux, when you get the heartburn, which is not from too much acid, it's actually from too little. You have too little acid in your stomach, you don't digest the food. And so it sits there and actually goes back up. It's still acidic, and it will still hurt the esophagus or the upper areas of the stomach. When you feel pain from that, if you take bicarbonate, it will neutralize that acid that's going back up and give you relief. And that's one of the main uses for you know decades. For people who understand what bicarbonate is. Otherwise is not that's not the condition Yes, you take it away from us first thing in the morning. Either a half hour before meals or two hours or two three hours after meals. And just to give people cancer patients and indication the treatment cancer treatment using bicarbonate. And there's a lot of science behind this is to take enough bicarbonate to get your urinary pH up to eight morning, noon and night. Wow. The pH measurements which you take three times a day is your steering wheel. It's your navigation device how much bicarbonate you need to take. Now you keep don't do that for the rest of your life when you can do it for 10 days. Cut the dose in half for a week go back for 10 days. And the most recent research and I'm writing a third addition to my bicarbonate book now. But the most recent research about bicarbonate and cancer comes from the Ludwig Cancer Institute in the United States. And they basically found that what bicarbonate does to cancer cells it turns back on their circadian rhythm that they've turned off. Cancer cells turn off the basic rhythm of the cells because they need to eat 24/7 The basic circadian rhythm of the body is 12 hours on 12 hours off 12 hours eating activity 12 hours relaxation and recuperation regeneration, they turn that clock off the bicarb. And it turns it back on. So it starts to stop cancer cells because they can't eat as much as they'd like.
Ed Jones 35:13 Interesting, very, very interesting. I. So I don't forget it also on that breathing Dr. Protect co he really huge deal about not mouth breathing. So that's to make sure we remind people breathing through the nose is imperative. That's something we have to teach ourselves. Because it's, you know, you get these habits that are lifelong, I mean, it's not going to end overnight. But really thinking everyday about nose breathing, slower breathing, all of that imperative. I mean, we've you've covered some jewels today from of course, I think people with approx the hydrogen concept now are going to be informed you got options. And on your website, your new book, again, you have the tools to help people journey through this aging process, the disease process on a common sense, safe, relatively inexpensive protocols that you have you're brave man, Dr. Sarkis outside, because you really put yourself out there, because you're doing what your heart says is the right thing. And even though we may have some challenges with that, as you know, we can sleep at night, we're no we're doing the right thing. And I really consider you a hero in the field. And I want and you tell people again, how how your website is how much information you have about, you know, then you can look at the machines if you want on your website, and it is Dr. circus.com, spelled si er ceus.com That Correct? Right. It's Dr. Dr. Site. Okay. And also what's what's the spelling of the little device on Amazon that you said, please?
Dr. Sircus 36:48 It's called the frovlov. Okay. It's very inexpensive. It's, well, it's a gem. And on my site, you know, I have I mean, go back five years ago, I had 1000 essays on there, you can put in a search on my site for any of the things we've talked about. Breathing co2, hydrogen, and you really don't have to spend a dime, you know, you know, I write and publish to my site before I put my books together. So everything is there.
Ed Jones 37:26 And you also you also do consultations on Skype, right?
Dr. Sircus 37:31 I do consultations. I'm also you know, I'm a therapist. I'm a psychologist. I'm a communication psychologist, and a subset of that as listening psychologist, and I'm a co a psychologist at Harvard University, they call that perceptual psychology. So even though there has not been my focus in the last 15 years, I am going back to that. And so I'm also doing online therapy. But most of my focus these past years has been on cancer patients. And teaching people how to set up treatment at home. And even if you go you're a rich person, and you're going to go to Mexico or Switzerland, and spend a fortune before you go and when you come home, you still need to treat yourself
Ed Jones 38:24 Yes.
Dr. Sircus 38:27 And more people are dying of cancer today, during this pandemic, than anything else. I mean, cancer, the everything in the pandemic has been the pandemic, and viruses and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But behind the scenes, people are dying of cancer in massive numbers, massive numbers.
Ed Jones 38:54 I just intuitively because of my ability to speak to so many people without even looking at numbers or statistics, you are speaking exactly the truth, the amount of stories that I'm able to hear from the amount of people it is definitely increase. In course we have a lot to do with the stress of the lockdowns, the loneliness syndrome, everything that you know very well also plays into this demise of our health. So Dr. Sircus, I just can't thank you enough that we given I know we've given people tools today, they have tools to access you your new book on hydrogen, which I know is going to be fantastic. And the machine if people want it. And again, I just thank you so much and I hope maybe in six months we'll get back together we can go a little further into some of the other parts of this puzzle more in depth like the magnesium or bicarbonate by itself. So thank you so much for joining me on the holistic navigator.
Dr. Sircus 39:52 Well, thanks for having me. It's been a pleasure.
Ed Jones 39:54 Alright, and thank everyone for listening and as I say many of the times I separate the world into two classes of people learners and non learners. You're listening to me here on the holistic navigator, you've got to be a learner and you are going to profit exponentially by doing that, live your life fully live it with far less fear. And let's get on with our magic that we have as a living human being. Thank you so much.
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