An Expert's Thoughts on Nebulizing
On this week’s episode we talk once again with Dr. David Brownstein. He walks us through the why’s and how’s of nebulizing food grade hydrogen peroxide. He’s a firm believer in this process, but suggests working with an integrative doctor if you’re considering doing it on your own.
Meet Dr. Brownstein
Our guest, Dr. David Brownstein is a Board-Certified, family physician. He is one of the foremost practitioners of holistic medicine and is the Medical Director of the Center for Holistic Medicine in West Bloomfield, Michigan.
Dr. Brownstein has lectured internationally to physicians and others about his success in using natural hormones and nutritional therapies in his practice. He is a graduate of the University of Michigan and Wayne State University School of Medicine. Dr. Brownstein is a member of the American Academy of Family Physicians and the International College of Integrative Medicine where he is a board member.
Some Topics We Discussed:
Why would you nebulize food grade hydrogen peroxide? (4:20)
What has been Dr. Brownstein’s protocol for his patients? (7:14)
How many times a day should someone use a nebulizer? (11:43)
What is Dr. Brownstein’s recommendation for people that are not fully recovering? (22:47)
Key Takeaways From This Episode:
Do not wait to start your protocol until you feel terrible. Start early. (6:54)
It’s very rare that someone doesn’t feel any positive impact from nebulizing a diluted solution of hydrogen peroxide. (8:03)
Don’t nebulize over the counter hydrogen peroxide. Make sure you get food grade. (9:04)
Find out what’s imbalance in the body and address those things. (23:14)
Products + Resources:
Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
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Brian Strickland 00:01 Hey everyone welcome back to the Holistic Navigator Podcast where we believe in the body's capacity for self healing, if it's given the proper nutrients and care it deserves. My name is Brian Strickland. I'm the producer of the show. And here with me in the studio, as always is your host, Ed Jones. On today's episode, we're speaking once again with Dr. David Brownstein. Dr. Brownstein is a Board Certified family physician. He's one of the foremost practitioners of holistic medicine and is the medical director of the Center for holistic medicine in West Bloomfield, Michigan. On today's episode Dr. Brownstein is going to discuss nebulizing food grade hydrogen peroxide. And if you haven't heard of this before, it isn't really that well known, but it is something that he's used in his practice for many years. He's going to give us the whys and hows and some of the results that he seen in his own practice. Well, that's it for me, everyone, just a heads up, we did run into a small audio issue on this episode. But all the information is still there for you to hear. Let me go ahead and get things started and introduce your host, Mr. Ed Jones.
Ed Jones 01:38 Thank you, Brian, and welcome everyone to The Holistic Navigator. Again, we're over 100 podcasts, I'm very, very thrilled to again, be joining you on my life passion, which is to empower people in avenues to help them in their health on all parts to this puzzle. I don't care if it's from hair loss to constipation, to very serious conditions. And today, I have a I think he's a hero. I mean, I'm just use whatever word I want. I met this physician probably 12 to 14 years ago in Nashville at a medical conference. I certainly am not a physician myself, but I've schooled myself for four plus decades in every avenue of nutrition and medical world that would lean toward my philosophies of self healing. And today we have Dr. David Brownstein welcome to the holistic navigator.
Dr. Brownstein 02:42 Well, thank you for having me.
Ed Jones 02:44 We talked one time before, and it was on January 10 of 2020 on my podcast, and a title was a holistic view of thyroid function, iodine and blood pressure with Dr. Brownstein that has been one of the more listened to podcast in the last year and a half. As I spoke to just a second ago, a lot of water has gone under the dam since that time, and I want to focus on something that is modestly censored, but it's been something that I have been had experience with even 25 years ago. I have a local physician here. His first name's Charles, you probably know him. And he would do IV hydrogen peroxide for me and other patients before he was made to stop doing that many years ago. And I am always been intrigued with the potency value and power of food grade hydrogen peroxide, and I know that you in your clinic have been using it and I love something I saw on tik tok that I that I was speaking to my staff of 27 people last night. You know, during the first lockdowns, I said, I have lived my whole life for this moment. And the experience that I gained from 40 plus years. As far as entrepreneur management and health, I feel like was all to prepare me for this. And I think I heard you say something similar to that on Tik Tok. And I just value your courage because it does take courage to fight this battle, and we are going to win in the end truth always does. So without me wasting any more time. Let me let you start talking about your experience and your advice for people who want to learn about how to nebulize food grade hydrogen peroxide.
Dr. Brownstein 04:34 Well, I've been using this, this technique for over 25 years for treating viral infections and during influenza season and it doesn't matter whether it's flu or another viral infection. And what we've seen is people are having breathing issues you know get better, they can better their lungs seem to open up, they seem to oxygenate better. And our patients don't go to the hospital and don't get pneumonia at anywhere near the reported rates every flu season when they get sick with flu, and other flu like illnesses.
Ed Jones 05:11 And we know that peroxide has been around a very long time. In fact, I think just be looking into it just slightly before this, it began in the early 1900s. And I looked on PubMed about an hour ago, there are 91,583 references to peroxide on PubMed, and breast milk contains peroxide. And so I think people all know of how peroxide for pouring it on skin issues and seeing the bubbling. But I know from my personal experience of just listening to the many people who are going to share experiences with me, I work six days a week, I'm talking to hundreds of people, the ones who have embraced your protocol for nebulizing during, this, we call it, I will call it under the weather epidemic that we are experiencing, I don't want to get censored, at least on my end, by using the wrong words. But I think people listening will know what I'm speaking about, have fared so much better, if they do it and the appropriate timeframe. So obviously, I think you've done a paper on that with 107 patients that you've actually published in regard to that. But of course, your vast experience that speaks speaks tons about the truth about the power proc side. And of course, without me Are you having to say it, we know this will never be mainstream. One is profit peroxide is one of the least expensive products you could possibly use. And I know that, you know, even there's shortages, even sometimes now I'm saying of nebulizers, because obviously you are and some of your hero partners are educating people but someone listening right now and they have an interest in this because and one you say this constantly, I've read many of your things. We need to be prepared, we don't wait until we're truly under the weather feeling horrible to try to accumulate the knowledge, you won't have the mental capacity to do it, because you're feeling so bad. So I encourage people always get your toolkit ready. One of those tool kits is a nebulizer and food grade peroxide. Where does a person start from there?
Dr. Brownstein 07:14 Well, you know, we find out in this COVID crisis that you want to want to be scrambling when you're wanting to have everything. And you know, I first ran across peroxide when I was taking the oxidative medicine course, you know, 25 I don't remember how many years go a long time without and started using it. And it is truly through this through this COVID mess that we're in. You know, I had a protocol that I've used for patients with, you know, high dose vitamin A, C, D and iodine and then nebulised corrected an iodine, then it is a vitamin C and peroxide anymore. And out of all that therapy that has kept you know, we're over 700 patients now you're right, I wrote that peer review paper of 107 patients than the success we've had with it. But all those patients and going back 25 years, the thing, most interesting thing I hear from patients who have pneumonia, lung problems, you know, sick, you know, coughing, is that when they start using nebulized peroxide and iodine and their lungs open up their their oxygenation gets better if they're measuring that their breathing gets better, their wheezing gets better. Sometimes it doesn't help. That's a rare sight. I don't recall anyone telling me an adverse effect from doing a dilute solution of hydrogen peroxide. And, you know, you asked about people doing it at home and my suggestion is to find a holistic doctor who is literate in oxidative therapies like hydrogen peroxide and ozone and can help work with you at it. I don't think people should just willy nilly do things at home and when I talk about nebulizing peroxide to my colleagues you know, I don't mean nebulizing the over the counter peroxide because there's some preservatives and some things in there that probably aren't the best to be nebulizing. It's using a food grade peroxide and the food grade peroxide comes at different strengths out there you know in the world and there's different manufacturers of it and you got to make sure you have a good brand but and it's a much cleaner form of peroxide. But however you do it I you know the formula I've been using is a point oh 3% peroxide solution in normal sterile normal sailing and it's a very dilute solution products and applications. Put one drop of 5% Lucozade and insert them into that nebulizer well, and then nebulizer so people can buy nebulizers you could buy my line you could buy some drugstores have them. They're not that expensive. a nebulizer is anywhere from You know, $35 to $70, no good jet nebulizer. I don't recommend a handheld nebulizer for nebulizing anything, they're not strong enough. And I find out during the COVID crisis, patients who use handheld nebulizers didn't get the same benefit as the jet desktop, Jet nebulizers that sit on their desk, sitting on the counter tap a plug in, and that's what you hear, you know, puts it, what a nebulizer means is it puts liquid into small, small fluid particles so you can breathe them in. And so it puts a stream of air through that liquid product that that becomes sort of a not a gaseous state, but close and that's what you're breathing it is the you know, the small particles that are in liquid form. And you know, it's it's nevertheless in practice and practice and practice and and so great peroxide and Lucozade a fibrous globaldata is very inexpensive stuff, none of that's possible have money. You can now utilize peroxide for three months and spend maybe, you know, every day and do it a couple times a day and probably spend less than 100 bucks for the whole thing. And that's for buying a new nebulizer, once you buy the nebulizer, you can just, you know, either mix up, you know, we mixed up solution for our patients sometimes or, you know, whatever. And, you know, then it costs, you know, for three months, probably 40 bucks, 30 bucks, something cheap, nothing much. And that's a pretty effective, expensive therapy, and you're right, that's why it's not going to be patented. And that's why big fiber will never will never come out with it.
Ed Jones 11:43 So if someone is under the weather feeling really, really, really poorly. How many times a day do you normally recommend someone to do the nebulizer?
Dr. Brownstein 11:52 Well, I've been having people nebulize this point, oh, 3% dilute hydrogen peroxide? No, no, I have a solution. If they're sick, I have them do it every hour. So they're better waking hour, though, they're better. As they get better, they can start laying off with it and just sort of gradually, you know, run their course with it. Now, in the middle of the COVID crisis, I had a lot of patients that I would tell to just nebulize when you get home from somewhere that you think you might have been, you know, exposed, because theoretically, the peroxide and positive antiviral properties do it and hopefully they can decrease the viral load in the throat in oral pharynx nasal pharynx. I can't close to any direct studies with that, but you know, in in vitro, hydrogen peroxide and iodine or both have antiviral properties that are very effective anti viral properties. You know, you mentioned peroxide. Where did you tell me you mentioned if you read that it was found in the body?
Ed Jones 12:57 Well, in the body of breast milk contains a pretty good amount of peroxide.
Dr. Brownstein 13:00 Well so do the lungs, so every cell in the body is constantly exposed the correct date, it's produced all over the body and every cell and the immune system uses peroxide to fight foreign invaders. Iodine helps the white blood cells you know fight foreign invaders and helps the white blood cells produce more peroxide is everywhere in the body will always have a huge amount of peroxide especially when they're under stress, you know, fighting something so I found it incredibly effective. I found it effective for COPD, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. But asthma peroxide sometimes helps people you know, I think it's worth a try because it's it's, it's pretty safe and a dilute solution. But you know, as medics, you know, when an acute asthma attack, they might need medical therapy over peroxide, but you know, I have asthma and what I find is, if it's, you know, if it's as if it's allergy induced or just net, an asthma attack and outbreak flow blow to asthma attack. Peroxide works wonderfully to help decrease the wheezing and to open up my lungs and take that type feeling away.
Ed Jones 14:06 I love that I love that and for people who are not familiar with lugols it is an old old old remedy of iodine that I do take everyday but a lot of it based on learning from you over my years and we did this podcast on like I said January 10 2020, with Dr. Brownstein on thyroid health so you can learn more about lugols if you just go back to that podcast on on my site and now you know Dr. Bernstein that again we're in the world of crazy censorship and things and I want to I want to have people be able to access some some written good information do you have a certain site or place that you can recommend I found one earlier but I want to hear what you got to say.
Dr. Brownstein 14:46 Well I mean number one, I've written books on all these things you know I've written 16 books, it's on my website, Dr. Brownstein calm and, you know I have prostate information would be in my ozone Book and by virus book I wrote a book called holistic approach to viruses based on my COVID. And, you know, work on information all over the place and, you know, through different sites, but you know, at least, you know, I have all the books cited, I have all the books, you know, reference, and I just write about what works in my practice, because then, you know, I'm in the trenches, I've, I'm in the trenches, I've been in the trenches for COVID since day one, and never closed my office, never, you know, we treated patients and we've treated them before we knew it would even work. We were hoping it was gonna work and it worked. And, you know, it's, it's the same thing we've done with nothing has changed. And nothing. Nothing has changed. COVID has responded.
Ed Jones 16:03 Well, you know, the thing is, and I've so many people, listen, I speak a lot in public venues. And, of course, having to watch I'm not super frightened about being open about my opinions. And sometimes I do get on roles where I probably speak a little too much. But I say this, to the fact that, you know, intentionally there's agenda to create fear. Because when you're fearful, then you become a victim. And when you're a victim, you become susceptible to the powers to be to control you. And the thing is, the word virus is right now terrifying people before this timeframe, it didn't really terrify, but we've been so brainwashed by the media and all of the crap that we're being told constantly morning, noon, and night. The thing is, and I think the studies show that maybe each person, his whole world has about three viral infections a year, let's just say we only have one viral infection here, I'm 64 years old, that means I've had 64 virus infections, there's not a medicine to treat any of these, I've lived through every one of them. Anyone who's listening to this podcast, you can at least say it's a every year, you've had one in probably two to three times a year, you've made it through everyone, the real sadness. And you know what agree to this is the so many people who are not living today, not because they didn't take a vaccine, it wasn't because they get COVID, just because the treatment that is being offered is simply not effective. And it continues on. And that's the sad part of this, when we know there are much better options. I have probably heard stories of at least 300 to 400 people because people share a lot with me. And the ones who number one, and I think he'll say this, we have to start this thing early. You can't wait to day 10 and you're spiraling you have to start and I'd say, you know, day three would be like day three to four at the latest what is you feel the same way?
Dr. Brownstein 17:58 Absolutely. That's why you want to be prepared early and have a nebulizer and have, you know, solution ready to use if you need it. So you're not having to scramble for it. And I suppose, with COVID, as you just described, the people we started early did much better than the people who had settled in and we were trying to play catch up. And, and I agree with you about the fear. Fear causes people to do things that wouldn't necessarily do to get that fear to go away. And the powers that be have done a good job of creating an environment of fear over an illness that with their treatment. early treatment and in my protocol is one early treatment, Dr. Swank always his own protocol. Dr. McCulloh has, you know, and frontline doctors know that, you know, there there's different ways to support the immune system to treat the body to use medication to treat viral illnesses, you know, versus what we get in this crisis was just Everybody stay home went through, you can't breathe and then go to the emergency room where too many people died. And it was really it's one on one post mortem is written at this point.
Ed Jones 19:14 No, I won't But as you know, I believed so solely that, you know, truth ends up winning in the end. I don't know how long that will be before truth bubbles up to the point of the tipping point. But you can't keep hiding the lies forever. You just can't. And these history is going to write this story and who knows what way but it won't be written in the way that people think right now it will be which is vaccinations are going to fix this problem. It can't seem to ever have fixed a Coronavirus. And I don't think it ever will just because the nature of that virus. Now we'll say and things can change weekly as far as censorship, but I did Google spirit of change and your name and peroxide and it did come up with a chart I know in your books, I love your books, you are such a great author. And I encourage everyone to really delve into it, especially if you have, you know, thyroid issues and you want to learn about this peroxide and you want all these things. And the other thing is, I get your newsletter, there's not a better freakin newsletter out there by any health care professional physician or naturopath that I ever could recommend, then Dr. Brownstein's newsletter, but the spirit of change if you Google that with your name, and peroxide has the chart on how to dilute it with this normal sailing. And I know you say in there, you know, it's very important to have the right sailing because that's you can't just put distilled water in here. So people who are listening, you got to know what you're doing. If you don't have a healthcare professional like yourself who can help guide you. And we know that you know many parts of the country simply don't have the the people who have the experience like you, they may actually be open somewhat, but they don't have your experience. So we're trying to empower them the best they can be at this point. But I'm also like you I encourage people to build a team of professionals who are skilled in the belief that the body has magic capacities to heal itself, but only if we service it, supply it and build it up with the right natural nutrients and sometimes drugs. I mean, I know you, I think you've written it. You actually didn't even use ivermectin in most of your patients. I'm not opposed to some drugs, I think ivermectin is probably a choice a good one. But you don't even have to do that. Obviously you've done it without it right?
Dr. Brownstein 21:29 We have was never part of our protocol for treating viral infections until now.
Ed Jones 21:47 Well, you know, you I think people have, if they're listening, they have a really good feel for how to how to begin this path, this process, you know, get the nebulizer, get the food grade food grade peroxide, never get the drugstore, it is full of some chemicals that we just can't would not want to ingest, especially breathing into into your lungs, and you know, swishing in your mouth one thing but not breathing into your lungs. You've talked about the frequency when to start it, how to start it, the chart again, on your books can give the chart of delusions with a say lane or again, if it stays on the on on internet, spirit of change had the great chart, you know, sadly, mercola is of course, as we all know, has removed or been forced to remove so much or all of his websites, except for two days that he posts right at this point. So we can't go back and look at his stuff that he wrote about you. I mean, he certainly loves you to death also. So hopefully we've empowered people to this to this level of at least the peroxide. Last question. If you have just a little snippet on it, what are you recommending for these long haulers, because what we know is that a lot of people who both took the shot and or got the virus is continuing with symptoms not sick, sick, but they're having the brain fog fatigue, sometimes the mucus in the lungs, all kinds of symptoms, they just are not fully recovered. Is there. What advice Are you giving your patients on that Dr. Brownstein?
Dr. Brownstein 23:14 Well, first off, we post a lot of cards from COVID, from about 20% to 40% of people recovering from COVID are suffering some kind of symptoms. It's about two to 3%. So we're finding that our approach because there's very few long hours and what we're doing with those that do develop long haul is treat them with IV nutritional therapies. We we find, you know, high dose vitamin C IVs and detect, you know, proper detoxification and just just immune system support, you know, and just find out what's imbalanced in the body and correct those imbalances and then have patients do you know, this is a two way street patients need to do their end of the thing. They need to exercise, they need to move, they need to drink water, adequate amounts of water, they need to cut sugar out of their diet. That's the big thing. Cut sugar and refined carbohydrates because sugar paralyzes the white blood cells for up to four to five hours. So how are people going to get over these visits, their immune system constantly is backed by sugar and refined carbohydrates.
Ed Jones 24:19 Again, Dr. Brownstein, I cannot thank you enough for your life saving information and the fact that you've just truly empowered people for both what to do daring and also those many people like you said 20 to 40% are talking and feeling the long hauling effects. I love and I've tell you this constantly to people, is what you just stated, which is when you consume sugar, your immune system kind of goes neutral for about four hours. It doesn't have the abilities that it normally has. That doesn't mean we live in a cave and you can't have a brownie every now and then. But to do it, you know breakfast, lunch and supper and so many people's Breakfast is contain a lot of sugar and so again looking at what you're eating looking what you're drinking looking at your lifestyle your exercise the purity of the air that how much sunshine Are you getting, it all goes back to this this is not even a magic formula it's common sense, but we've lost it especially the medical professionals today just simply don't have any value connection to the natural pharmacy within us and getting back into the harmony of life, the nature the place we came from that built us to be resilient strong and you know your health not based on the next prescription it just simply isn't and I'm just again very very proud to say that I have you on my podcast it builds my credibility wonderfully and I just know that you are going to be doing this for as long as you can and the same with me. And so is there any last words of wisdom you'd like to leave the listeners?
Dr. Brownstein 25:59 Well, I mean, what I'd like to say is you know you need to to it's a two way street with working as I see it you know, my relationship with my patients is I'm on the sidelines I'm on the side of the street telling you go right go straight there behind the wheel. So you know, driving that car correctly down the road, you need to eat better and keep sugar down to your diet, drink water exercise, you know, do the basics, and then you do the basics. When you get sick with something, some kind of viral illness or bacterial is your immune system is ready to fight back and it just needs a little bit you know, maybe a little bit more support to help it along. versus someone you know, two thirds of our country's overweight one thirds obese, we have diabetes, you know too much way too much diabetes and then when they get sick with these viral illnesses, they're fighting back against this huge inflammatory state that is already in calling into the boardroom on this and so I think this should be a wake up call and I wrote about that in my virus book that COVID ism should be a wake up call and how hard we've been hit with it that we're just not a healthy country right now. And you know it's more than just nebulizing peroxide it's taking care of ourselves and getting ready for when we're when we are under stress there's always a time you know nothing's too late you can always make changes if you haven't done so well up to now or if you're doing now just just tighten things up a little bit. Notice bad health you don't have to settle for feeling lousy, you don't have to settle for being brain fog and tired all the time. You know, we should we are designed by our maker to have good health good energy throughout life.
Ed Jones 27:31 I love that and you you speak such good common sense, but it seems to have been thrown out the window these past especially year and a half. I have great hope great pump promise that, you know, despite all the efforts of censorship, here we are, we're talking to the person like yourself, we are going to spread this word because it is and again, you're on Tick tock, I love that. And so your website again is for more information and to purchase your books. What is your website again?
27:59 It's www.drbrownstein.com
Ed Jones 28:03 Lovely, lovely. And I just so surprisingly, thank you again, Dr. Brownstein for joining me on the Holistic Navigator and I'm sure we'll talk in the next six months to a year again. And your gifts are invaluable to the people that are really listening which is not just in the United States but also in other countries. So much, much praise to you and you know the world ask us every single day do you have courage? Well, I can tell you people listening Dr. Brownstein has got a basket full of courage. So thank you for joining me on the Holistic navigator Dr. Brownstein.
Dr. Brownstein 28:37 Thank you for having me. I look forward to do it again.
Ed Jones 28:39 All right, you take care of yourself. We need you. Bye, bye. Bye. Thank you listeners. And we'll be hearing from you and listening next time on The Holistic Navigator. I've got three podcasts already in play ready to go. So we got a lot of work we've done and we got a lot more work to continue on. And I love what I'm doing. And please email us if you have any questions or comments. Thank you. This is Ed with the holistic navigator.
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